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Company Name: Perfectly Posh
Costs: $94
Rating: 36/100
Update 2017: Since I've been inundated with fanatic Posh sellers on my initial review, I've changed the name of the article to reflect more precisely what it's about. This is a review of the income opportunity, as compared to other similar income opportunities and “work at home businesses” that I've done myself, or reviewed in the past. It's my opinion that selling soaps through network marketing is not very lucrative for most people, so Posh is not the best way to go if you want to create a sustainable business.
Details why are in the “product breakdown” and “opportunity breakdown” section.
If you like their soaps, great. Keep buying them. If you make some cash on the side, great. Enjoy your hobby. I have no issues with that.
My main issue is Posh being pitched as a great way to make supplemental INCOME. A few hundred bucks on the side is not an income in my opinion. My website is about starting an online business you can rely on for years, not some chump change while you chat with friends over the weekend.
What Is It?
Another MLM targeted at women, which sells pamper and luxury products.
Short Review
To be honest, there isn’t a lot about Perfectly Posh that makes it stand out. Sure, the products look kind of cool, but there isn’t a shortage of soaps and body butter products already on the market. At the same time, the commission scheme for the company is pretty typical and certainly puts distributors at a disadvantage.
Product Breakdown
Perfectly Posh is a bit of an odd name for the company, especially as the product selection doesn’t really have much to do with the concept of posh. Instead, the company is promoting products focused on the idea of pampering. The selection of products includes things like hand cream, foot products, skin cream, bath bars, face wash and much more.
The products themselves are fairly unique, largely because you wouldn’t find those specific flavors and descriptions from other companies. For example:
At the same time, the products are a bit on the expensive side ($9 for a bar of soap?). In many cases, people would be prepared to pay the higher prices, simply because most people assume that pampering is going to be expensive. Likewise, people often think that higher price means better quality even if that often isn’t the case.
However, the higher-than-normal product prices are still a bit of an issue, as they decrease how many people you could sell to. After all, spending $9 on one block of soap is really a bit extravagant, even for a treat.
I haven’t seen a lot of talk about the quality of the products, which isn’t that surprising. Realistically, there is a huge number of different companies that sell similar products and for the most part, they are all pretty similar. I mean come on, you can get handmade, high quality soaps on Etsy in any scent you can think of.
EDIT: Check the comment section! It seems that PP has created such a rabid fanbase of soap enthusiasts that they can't handle any bit of criticism of the company. OK, fine. If you like the soaps, pay $9 for them. None of my business. But the fact remains that you can find similar soaps for the same price for cheaper at other companies. The fact that so many insane people have berated me in the comment section for even suggesting that their soaps are not 100% amazing is pretty disheartening.
There are some product reviews on Amazon for many of the items, but they aren’t especially helpful. For example, many products just have one or two reviews and those reviews seem to be pretty biased. The soap below is one example of this, as both reviewers were people saying you should buy from a distributor.
In other words, there's nothing really special about these products. There are good reviews and bad reviews. If you like them and want to sell them, that's great. But it's all a matter of opinion, just like any other product out there. Your job as a marketer and salesperson will be to get people to change brands or try a new brand. Are you ready to make a convincing argument of why someone should buy a $9 bar of soap?
Can you really spin it so that Perfectly Posh products sound better than anything else out there?
Chunk Soap Review (Finally)
Well, 99% of the comments in this post say, “You didn't try it, so you cant' say anything about the company.”. Though I disagree, I acquired a bar of “chunk”. It was a $5 version, not a $9 version. My review? Yeah, it was a good soap. For $5, I would even say it was a great soap! Smelled great, look like you could eat it, and for five bucks I can't complain.
- Would I pick up this soap over any other soap in the grocery store? Probably not. It's just a bar of soap.
- Does it last longer than another other type of soap out there? Nope. Probably will last a few weeks, just like anything else.
- If I had a friend selling this would I seek them out to buy a $5 item? Nope. I'd probably just buy from Amazon or switch to another brand. Convenience is important to me.
- Does this make me want to sell it to friends and start a soap/lotion selling business? Not at all. Just not something I'm interested in.
I see the appeal of selling “day spa” related items, and the community aspect women enjoy in MLM. I can see how some people would enjoy recommending products to their friends that they like! However, limiting yourself to a single brand makes you a salesperson, not an honest, objective friend recommending products. Keep that in mind!
OK, now I tried it. Now I can have an opinion on it.
Opportunity Breakdown
More Updates 2017: . A lot of gals ripped into me in the comments for saying that women are targeted by MLMs. Here's an interesting article (from a woman) called How Multi-Level Marketing Targets and Destroys Female Entrepreneurs
The opportunity side of Perfectly Posh is pretty much what I’d expect. You start off by buying a starter kit, which offers a range of products along with business tools. In this case, the kit costs $94 plus shipping and tax – so you’re spending quite a bit just to get going.
Distributors for the company earn 20% commission for sales on the first tier and 25% once they move up to the next rank in the company. That's not too bad! In fact, 25% commission is good compared to many programs I've reviewed. The trouble is that you are selling small-ticket items, so 25% of a $10 item is just $2.50. You need to sell a lot of items. Do you know that many people personally? Probably not. That's why it's almost impossible to make money with MLMs unless you have a website.
As a general rule, the amount of money you make actually selling the products tends to be pretty low since you're selling IRL. Even a large 20% commission on a $10 item is only $2 per sale.. Instead, most income will come from bonuses and your downline. Now, a downline refers to the people you recruit, the people they recruit and so on. This is the core part of this type of business, which is also known as a multi-level marketing business (or MLM).
Essentially, the idea is to increase your downline as much as possible and to also increase the amount of sales the people in your downline make. Doing so helps you increase in rank in the company and also helps to increase your income, like so:
This model is what makes earning money so difficult. Realistically, you need to recruit a decent number of people into the company and have them also be effective at recruiting. Doing that is exceptionally hard.
How many people do you personally know that would be willing to invest the time and money needed to be successful in the business? Probably not many. But, you would need to find people like that to get anywhere in the company. Likewise, those people would have to find others and so on.
Honestly, there aren’t even that many people out there that have an interest in this type of company and have the resources to be successful. Often, this means that distributors might be able to recruit one or two others, but are never able to build a successful downline. The end result is that they never earn much money.
MLMs, Women and Success
Perfectly Posh is yet another MLM company that targets women. This pattern is incredibly common across many different MLMs and it extremely manipulative. One reason for this seems to be that many women end up staying at home and raising their families. As they do this, women often end up looking for ways to make a little money on the side and MLMs exploit this concept.
You deserve what exactly? A business that is going to cost you more money than you earn?
This type of company makes it sound like you can have the best of everything. They suggest that women can earn money without having to give up their time with their families. At the same time, they are even presented as ways to be more social, because you are interacting with friends and potential customers.
But, all of this is manipulation, plain and simple. Your chances of making any money with an MLM are small and your chances of making a decent amount of money are tiny. In fact, you'll end up spending a lot of time away from home building your business since you have to meet people face to face to recruit them and sell. Are you going to drag the kids along to your meeting with a client for while you pitch the products? Are you going to take your kids to their home and have them run around while your friend examines the products? These are things you've got to consider!
Realistically, MLMs take advantage of people's business inexperience. Failure is built into the system. If everyone could recruit successfully and build a downline, then everyone in the world would be a Perfectly Posh consultant. If you want a good idea of the challenge of MLMs, take a look at this quote from an MLM report by the Consumer Awareness Institute:
To make matters even worse, a lot of people actually lose money in an MLM.
After all, you have to buy a certain amount of product to stay active and most companies push members to buy much more than they would otherwise. For example, distributors are often encouraged to buy a large selection of products so they can show those products off to potential customers.
As you can probably imagine, that approach can get expensive quickly.
I’ve personally seen a number of people fall into the trap of MLMs. Often they did make some money from sales, but they ended up spending much more than that on products. They would justify that approach by saying that they wanted the products. However, they wouldn’t have actually spent that money otherwise.
In many cases, people mightn’t pay that much attention to how much money they spend, but will get excited about any money they earn. So, it can take quite some time before distributors realize that they aren’t actually getting anywhere. At the same time, those distributors will be recruiting friends and family into the company and convincing them that it is a great opportunity for earning money.
That pattern is one of the reasons I get so concerned about MLMs. Not only are they ineffective as an income approach, but they often suck in people who really can’t afford to get involved.
Other Comments
Earning income from any MLM is always harder than it sounds. You might know some people interested in buying products from the company, but that doesn’t mean those people are going to help you run your business. A few sales in the beginning is great, but is it a sustainable business model?
Besides that, most people end up trying to sell products to friends and family, while also trying to recruit them. That approach can often lose you friends, which is just one more reason not to even get started.
Final Review
This is not a “bad” company or scam. I just don't believe the products are good enough to get excited about, and I don't think the multi-layer compensation plan will help anyone profit significantly here.
Update Friday July 1: I see there are a lot of upset ladies about my review. This is just not a company that I would recommend to a friend or for someone starting an online business. Just my opinion based on my experience selling things online.
MLM VS Affiliate Marketing Online
As I mentioned earlier, the MLM model is difficult. It is possible to make money (and some people do), but most people don't. In fact, most people end up losing money buying the products for themselves. That makes you a customer, not a distributor!
The thing is that you CAN work for yourself by selling products you love. By building a simple website and promoting products you've tried or want to buy yourself, you can make money online. It means you don't have to recruit friends and family, you don't have to post on Facebook, and you don't have to stick with one brand. If you think home spa treatments are fun and that's what you'd like to build a business about, go for it! Make a website and reach millions of people online instead of just your close network of friends.
You can learn how to make a simple website through online training. You'll find free resources here on my website, including my 20-lesson series that you can read/watch, without even joining an email list!
I made a website about computer software a couple years ago and now it allows me to work full time from home. I love writing articles for it and talking to other people enthusiastic about the software, and I don't even have to sell it to anyone in my family or try to get them to join a “club”.
What do you think? Would you build a website for women looking to pamper themselves, or would you pick a different topic? Do you think selling soaps is an exciting business venture or just another run-of-the-mill biz op? Let us know in the comments!
Oh ya, and what do you think of all the rude people in the comments? Do you think they are helping Perfectly Posh by telling me I'm an idiot or are they dissuading potential sellers from getting involved?
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Nathaniell
What's up ladies and dudes! Great to finally meet you, and I hope you enjoyed this post. My name is Nathaniell and I'm the owner of One More Cup of Coffee. I started my first online business in 2010 promoting computer software and now I help newbies start their own businesses. Sign up for my #1 recommended training course and learn how to start your business for FREE!
It’s amazing that anytime anyone writes a critical review of any MLM the hunbots come out in full force to tell you why you’re wrong and why the company they work for is so great! I guarantee you, a year or so down the road most of them will have gone out of business and moved on to the next great MLM dream. They don’t realize that THEY are the main customers for Posh. They are the ones who spend the real money on the product! Just like Scamway….er Amway. The consultants are the ones they rely on to spend spend spend on inventory. Hard lesson to learn and many never learn it. That Kool Aid sure is tasty. And yeah, Posh products are fair at best. The ‘Chunks’ are not reasonably priced, even though they claim they are so “huge”. They aren’t. Do you know how cheap soap ingredients are? There’s a huge markup on these stupid things because it’s an MLM. And they don’t “last that long”. I bought a chunk from a friend at one of those “parties” and it melted very quickly in the shower…..yes, in the same normal soap dish we use for all soaps…and because of the dye in it, made a terrible mess. It was a black bar of soap and I had to scrub my shower to get it clean after it. Didn’t even finish using it. I bought that stupid chunk and some body butter and a chapstick of some sort and spent FIFTY DOLLARS! What a waste of money. For $50 I could have gone and gotten a nice massage somewhere. Or a nice dinner. THAT’S being pampered. I don’t feel pampered when a black bar of soap melts all over my shower and I realize the body butter I purchased does not smell as good as the one I purchased for one-third the price somewhere else. Ugh, I will never go to another PP party.
Agreed. Most people severely discount the possibility of their own biases when selling stuff like this. “Oh, it was the longest-lasting bar of soap I ever had.”. Really? You’ve tracked all your bar soap usage rates over the past decade? There’s no possibility that you want it to be awesome so you can get excited about it and sell more of it?
The same goes with stuff like essential oils. “Ohhhh, the lavender really puts me to sleep at night.” Um, any chance there could be placebo there?
Im currently an active PP consultant. I wish I never heard of PP! Some if their stuff is good but thats changing really quickly.
Ive lost a ton of money. Just everything is bad. And its filled with bullies and nastiness. They have gotten greedy and its really showing in theor product quality and in all aspects of PP.
Also big gears have shipped with posh items since the new shipping it done by a place that ships for many clients. Sometimes you’ll get suprize items.
Their halloween items had no seals or broken seals and I was told its fine. Sell it anyway ! My upline who ignored that I was getting bullied by another team member (cause she thought they were cool) also told me just buy my own seals and no one would know. I didnt do that.
They just had two winter items that smelled like rotting puke. They said it all checked out and are still selling it. Didnt matter it smells nasty. And others will say they like it just to get rid of what they have.
I been gifting away whatever i have. There were some good items but its not the same anymore. Also they keep raising the prices.
And the constant videos to sell,recruit ,sell sell sell! It feels like a cult.
Its just bad all around.
The people who got in at the start and have like 200 or more people under them are the only ones making money. The silver leaders and such only sell the min 500 a month required and let the rest make up the numbers.
Holy crap there’s a lot of Kool-Aid being spilled here! I just signed up with PP the other day figuring I’d get a discount, although not a huge one, and just enjoy the product. I totally agree that MLM does not work for 99% of people, no matter how much you ‘work your biz’ or whatnot. Money in MLM is dependent on recruiting a ton of people and praying to God they keep ordering and signing up people so your commission goes up. I’ve only been with a few MLM companies, but it’s all the same Pay for play, make money at team building, product discounts, rabid wolverine consultants that have drowned in Kool-Aid, and no negativity allowed. Big brother doesn’t like that. No better or worse with any MLM in my experience. If you are in it for the discount in any MLM, great. If you think you’re going to be a millionaire quick off whatever widget or doo dad you are selling. be prepared for the fact that 99% of MLM’ers FAIL. Good article!
Perfectly Posh is a nightmare for small business owners operating in the e-commerce space. Their inexperienced distributors are using infringing referral links to drive business. My own business that I built from the ground up with my own blood, sweat, and tears fell victim to not one, but THREE Perfectly Posh consultants using my business name to hawk these products. And guess what? I also operate in the bath and beauty space. Reaching out to Perfeclty Posh was absolutely useless. All they care about is making a quick buck. There is no concern for potential ramifications so long as they can turn a profit as quickly as possible. They simply don’t care for the future, only the now. I do have legal counsel at this point, but it’s just absolutely mind-blowing that MLM companies such as Perfectly Posh are allowing their distributors to infringe. I can’t be the only one this has happened to….
Wow, people are very upset. I have used Perfectly Posh since Feb and enjoy so many of their products. I also still use my Lush products and Rodan and Fields. I am big on Made in USA, or cruelty free, natural as can be. So that is why they got rolled in as well as supporting a friend that is just making a few extra hundred if that while in nursing school. So I am not on any kool aid. I did start selling 30 days ago and have made back my kit cost and then some. I KNOW the power of affiliate marketing though and feel people are really ruining it for others by attacking you. What good does that do? If no one has heard of Perfectly Posh this should NOT be their impression. I use the products anyways and will not repeat things like a Chunk is very large and lasts three months or what all is in it like some have. I went into knowing that I can money off myself and sell what I want. I am keeping a spreadsheet and besides the initial kit? I made back the money and the commission? Paid for some business tools and shipping some samples. I am doing this way on purpose as my list of wants? Is very high and could EASILY do waaay to much. But I want to stay in the black and not waste my money. If I want tons of income? I will have to work it 40hrs a week. I do not. I have other stuff in my life. So a couple hundred a month? Is fine by me. So enough of my ramble, just know not all of us consultants are going to attack you. I apologize on behalf of them. You were honest about MLM not just ragging on Posh. I have seen nothing but support and good things so far but it is very early. Just keeping my eyes wide open and knowing I will get what I give.
I have to retract my statement! I have now seen the negative side (once sunshine stopped being blown up my skirt by upline) and realize that I have been a victim as much as you. I have seen a company that started with the greatest of intentions (at least that’s how it appeared), become nothing but a money sucking travesti. There is something to be said about a company that fires their president because he disagrees with the price hikes and downgrading of the product. Lately I have seen so many (just like myself) who have been drowning in the “kool-aid”, and I wish them the best. If they don’t swim out, they will sink and drown. I have since left Perfectly Posh for greater things (Lipsense) and if anyone out there wants to hear more, please message me! I am distributor #317630.(shameless plug)
I am treated with respect and I don’t have to worry if my customers will come back because the products just aren’t worth the hassle.
Once again, Daniel, I apologize. I’ve now taken the red pill, went down the rabbit hole and found Perfectly Posh in the pits!
Nathaniell came out as Daniel in autocorrect. sorry 😉
Haha. No worries. Glad you took the time to come back to my blog and update us with your experiences. I apprecaite it!
As promised I’m back after trying several PP items. First of all, I don’t feel Nathaniell has an agennda as he is on point regarding what he ascertains in regards to MLM businesses nor is he asking for any monetary gain to promote his own business endeavors. That said, I must say PP items are above average in my opinion. Are they worth it. I’d say so. People spend so much money on Bath&Body Works products and the perfectly posh products are higher quality and have less potentially harmful chemicals. Sure they have a few products that are flops but I was very impressed with the 10 items I tried and realize that the company is more than just catchy names and cute packaging.Would i become a consultant? No I don’t think it is a lucrative opportunity. I feel the time and effort one would put in to selling the products would outweigh any profit made. This is evidenced by all the “retired” consultants you see selling PP items on ebay and other similar sites.What is pure BS is the buy 5 get one fee special. I added up my five items and it came to $102 plus tax which is the price of the consultants kit.Why not just buy the consultant kit and get the items and not sell the products? Really people actually do do that. So in summary I think the items are great but it is not going to be a profitable business and quite possibly a huge pain in the ass with not much to gain for your efforts however I really do love the items I received. The chunks are to die for, the snarky bars are out of this world and the face masks and face washes are absolutely divine. This is coming from someone who has purchased drugstore brands to higher end “vegan” lines such as Origins and Aveda. Perfectly Posh is comparable to the higher end lines it is just targeted towards a younger demographic (possibly for a reason).
Thank you for taking the time to come back and let us know your opinion of both sides of the coin LB! Most people just leave drive-by comments, so I really do appreciate your time!
I make bath products, and even sell them. My “chunk” bars of soap are only $6.00 plus shipping. My bars of all natural goat milk soap last a long time too. Unlike these mlm companies you are are not paying me to go on a trip or so I can get prizes.
Thanks for the article. I bought the kit for $94 and found that I’m not that crazy about most of the products. For one thing, the products are small. The soaps are a great size but the moisturizers and serums, etc come in small containers and are pricey! It takes forever and a day to watch all the videos they expect you to watch, answer quizzes, and you’re supposed to get perks. Ha! Keep up with them and fine, but if you fall behind or miss your birthday perks, you don’t get them. The perks are a joke, the videos and quizzes are a joke, and the products are not very good. I’ve tried loads and have not been satisfied. I’ve wasted money and perks (BTW, you’ll use all of your perks obtaining perks). Furthermore, the products are always out of stock and when they give you updates they push the most popular ones back daily. “Hips Don’t Lie” is a popular product but it is STILL not in stock.
Do yourself a favor and avoid signing up! Go to Ross, Marshalls, and TJMaxx for similar products!
Thanks for the comment Trina!
Hey Nathaniell! So, I found this article rather one-sided ere your experience with Posh comes from if you haven’t tried it, bought it, or been apart of it, but we all have our own opinions and first impressions.
First, I would like point out that everyone takes a bath, right? I sure do hope so! LOL. Yes, the bath chunks are $9. I’ll be honest, I wasn’t sure of paying that much at first either, but once you try it, you’ll never go back to anything else. They are high-quality, triple milled (making them thicker and more frothier–hence how they lather since do not use tallow), and made of good for you, natural-based ingredients, meaning their product last on average 2-3 months with daily use….even that chunk bath bar. A huge plus is all of the products are made here in the USA and under $25. So price and quality wise, it isn’t comparable to “similar” products.
Second, although we are mainly geared toward women, there are many consultants who are men as well. I even have some of them on my team! 🙂 Yes, I am a consultant, and have been with the company for over 4 years now. I love that it sells itself and it’s not required that we buy any products or keep stock on hand as you mentioned. I do however buy the products to try for myself so I’m better able to share with friends how a product works, smells, etc. I don’t consider myself a social butterfly and am still able to sell just by word of mouth, sharing lotion at the store, or just having a hassle-free get together (who doesn’t love a face mask and lotion?)…it’s really easy to share what you love, especially when it’s affordable.
My average order per person is $40. You do have to work your business in order to get paid on your downline ($500 in sales a month, but this is not a requirement), and someone just starting can actually promote higher than seasoned consultants at any time. We also get rewarded through Posh Perks, Points, and other exclusive incentives outside of the pay plan.
If by chance you’re interested in giving Perfectly Posh a try, send me a message and I’ll gladly send you some free samples to try 🙂
Nice company generated post. This comment alone should scare everyone away from this company.
Can i try some free samples?
All the money you’re dumping into a terrible marketing idea for products that no one needs could be made 10 fold in the stock market.
Yeah, but you can’t rely on the stock market for income unless you start with a good chunk of money. I can respect that people want to start a business, and for many, their investigation into Posh will be their first attempt. I have to congratulate them on that!
I don’t sell the product but recently bought a face wash from Posh. I really love it. I’m almost 40 and still get breakouts and this has been the best cleanser I’ve tried. My skin looks better. I’m going to try a moisturizer next but it’s out of stock according to the website. Just wanted to say that I love that it’s vegan and so far I’ve really liked it. I wouldn’t be interested in selling it due to the need to maintain your status with monthly orders and they don’t seem to pay a high percentage. But I’ll be a customer:)
I became a consultant this year. My biggest issue is that you have to qualify to get certain products. Recently they came out with a “Fake It” sunless tanning lotion. If you had not sold a certain amount, you could not buy. Now it is no longer available & not planned to be available. In the starter kit comes “The Ritual” just for consultants but once you use it you can not buy it. Why push products that you are not going to make available to everyone? I’ve gotten a bad taste in my mouth. Just thankful all the products in the kit are worth more retail wise than what I paid. I can sell on Amazon or E-bay the products I don’t need & get my money back plus some. The market is saturated with consultants so it is not easy to sell the products.
Actually, that’s not true at all. The splurge is a 2 day event, by the end of the first day (where you had to be “qualified to shop”) it had sold 65% of stock. I feel as though there should be a limit on how many someone can buy on the first day. I have seen people buy 8-10 splurge products, only to turn around and trade 5 of them. How is that fair to people trying to build a business? You also cannot sell on Amazon or E-bay. You will be terminated if HO finds out. Try reading the policies and procedures. 🙂
ooh I do love that self tanner though but I bought it ebay for $15 and will probably buy more too!
Hahahaha! Perhaps Toni should log onto Amazon/Ebay. HO is gonna be pissed AND out of employees. C’mon now, can you be anymore Catty? Try reading your comments before hitting post, maybe you will realize you sound like a tattle tale! 😉
BTW…I am a consultant. I know the game and rules. This article is spot on! You all look ridiculous commenting on the quality of the “product”! This was an article about the compensation plan! The only people making money on this are and have been at the top of the pyramid since the beginning. I have watched so many dedicated-loyal to posh ladies, work their asses off to be compensated with at best 100$ a week! Geez!! Get it together, hide your crazy and act like ladies!
I am a PP consultant ( the term is loosely used). I personly think this company started out with good intentions, however, they have given away their soul to the MLM and they are now just like Mary Kay etc… You now have to order 200.00 per month to “qualified” to shop and get the splurge of the month or any limited edition items.
When the “Summer Store” which included several items, came out back in early May, they made a statement that it will ship in late May and there probably won’t have anything left. You had to purchase 3 sets of the Summer store which was a total of 300.00. So there was a big push to order. Well, in the end of May, it was only 3 items that were ready. I called PP and they stated that the other items were not ready to ship, they will ship in June. Then there was an announcement that the Summer Store was open to all other consultants. On the Facebook Posh Talk, there were consultants getting their products before mine even left the warehouse.Of course, PP sent out an apology, but I spent 300.00 to get the product early and to ensure I got the product. Consultants are not obligated to order three sets like the rest us had to.
I think they had to front the money to the company who made the product first before they would develop it. I don’t know, I just feel like this company has left a soapy scum residue on me.
I worked at posh for a long time and I can honestly say the the products aren’t great and I have tried almost everything. The CEO gives you a cool name and feeds you a bunch of shit and you guys take it and run with it and push it on everyone you know. Unless you work really hard to rank up to at least a silver premier you really aren’t making anything. I think PP has lead you to believe that they hand pick ingredients and that she only chooses the best. You have been mislead, she tells the manufacturer what scents to add or should I say David W. Does. I have worked with product development and trust me it’s nothing special. They sell the exact same recipes to other companies.
Even if their products were high quality I wouldn’t want to sell for a company who treat their employees with 0 respect. The CEO does not care about any of you, end of story. She sees you all as $$$ and guess what? those tears that she works up during her events aren’t authentic she cries on queue night after night during DA her sob story is what she uses to make you feel like she’s just a girl like you, who is living her dream when in reality she is brainwashing you.
You know what, I totally agree with you!! I just wish so many others would see it! I’ve been a PP consultant since Feb and I’ve noticed so many changes just in her.. I wish someone would get her on video or something talking like everyone says she does about all the consultants and post it online! That would be the real karma she deserves!
I absolutely love this! Thanks for sharing the truth!
this is the stupidest article on planet earth. You have NO idea what you’re talking about.. you are both clueless about affiliate marketing and Network marketing. You have NO idea how many people fail at affiliate marketing, and HOW much time goes in to earn back just the cost of what typical sites charge for participating in an affiliate marketing program.
There’s a lot of bad network marketing companies out there, but if you even had the common sense to check out a decent one, a company that is registered with the DSA and has been audited by the FTC, you’d find out what the purpose of network marketing, and what the potential actually it.
Just another loser review from someone who’s trying to take revenge on a system that you clearly don’t have the common sense or skills to take on.
Thanks for showing us what lovely people the Perfectly Posh group is! I appreciate the time you took to leave a comment on my blog Avy. Good luck with PP, and I hope you have a great weekend.
Yeah you are not a pleasant person at all that is bad PR for the company
Why can’t lush do in home!!!! I wish!!
I’ve never tried the products, so I can’t say a thing about them. However, I’m a lush girl, and I just can’t imagine this stuff being any better. I could be wrong, but if I can’t buy it in stores, sounds fishy to me.
I am a posh pusher. I bought into the company without ever having used the products because I am getting away from synthetic chemicals. You cannot buy posh in stores, just as you cannot buy Younique, Mary Kay, Avon…. and it should be this way. We do have a wonderful product and I’m a simple girl so I think my opinion is a valid one. The product is fun but also is free of sulfates, phthalates and parabens. It is also made in the USA.
you just might be finding it at TJ Maxx or Marshalls I suspect
Lush is better. Hands down!
Great blog and fantastic article. I should point out that in the past, I’ve repped two MLMs: The Body Shop and Scentsy. I loved The Body Shop, but they put an end to their at-home arm in 2009, which was odd, as we didn’t get paid if we didn’t sell. Seems foolish on their part. I quit Scentsy because I was sick of hearing myself talk about selling products all the time. I find MLMs a fast way to lose friends. You have to be selling all the time, and it tends to be all you talk about, asking people if they want to host a party, bring products and catalogs in a basket to work, visit your website, etc. I’d like to have my friends be my friends, and my business be my business. It’s like asking someone to convert to your lotion, soap, candle, etc. all the time, and it gets old fast.
People get defensive naturally because they regret the money they put into it, or they feel the need to defend their small business. I wish more people would read what you write about the struggles and the time spent. That’s the ticket here. No matter how successful you are at this, your pay per hour or tunnel vision will cost you; it’s never worth it.
Again, thanks for the great article and the amazing blog.
I recently became a customer of PP and was looking for a place to leave a review and happened to come across this article/blog. I have to say I do not object to any of the arguments in the MLM portion or the fact the a $9 bottle of soap is a little on the pricey side. But my thought process when purchasing was well hell I spend twice that much on bath and body Works stuff! Plus I bought several of the cheaper ones $5 and $6 just to see how I liked them. And while the chunks didn’t thrill me I do have to say I love their masks and moisturizers and when thinking about these items the prices are nothing compared to Younique or Mary Kay etc… While I do agree that this is probably not a business to rack in the dough with I certainly hope they keep their consultants happy and earning something worth it bc I do plan to continue to buy the items that I do feel work for me! 🙂
I sell posh and if you look at comparable sized “chunks” of soaps that arent full of chemicals they all run about 9-12 bucks. My husband is a cheapo when it comes to soap but he now only uses posh because it has changed his skin !
I’m not a Posh consultant and I can’t say I love every single product they make, but the problem that I have with this entire review is that you don’t mention any actual experience with the product. How can you legitimately write a review about a product you have never tried?
It was a review of the business opportunity, not the product quality. The idea of the review is whether or not you should sell the stuff to make money. If you like the product and want to use it that doesn’t matter to me.
I am having an issues as they claim to be “natural” however I’m breaking down the ingredients and finding them totally NOT natural at all! Not spending that kind of money on false claims!
Thanks for the interesting read. I have read a few of the comments, can take them all with a grain of salt, and appreciate your opinion. Having been a Perfectly Posh consumer for over two years, I am particularly fond of those $9 Chunks and I find they are a good value for our family. On the flip side, I can also see where others would see the price outrageous for a bar of soap. Then again, I have paid $6 for some handmade, artisan soaps, 1/3 the size from the Farmers Markets. I can honestly say I have loved every product that I have tried from PP.
I haven’t been disappointed by the customer service from my consultant and have recently decided to join as a consultant. However, I didn’t go in wearing rose colored glasses expecting to become a multi-millionaire, or even buy a week’s worth of groceries from my earnings each month. I will be happy with just getting a bit of a discount on what I buy for myself. I found that I spend more money on products for my family every six months than the minimum sales goals are for consultants. I didn’t join with the intention of jumping in “full steam ahead” to meet some huge sales quota, recruit a big team, and climb the status ladder.
I have been involved with other MLM business in the past. I am very well aware that one can rarely operate in the black with these businesses. It is not easy and many women and men are definitely easily “lured in” thinking they can “have it all”! I can’t speak specifically to how PP operates, how ethical they may or may not be; or what other consultant experiences have been. Fortunately, my upline has had good experiences. She has been successful because she has been very thrifty and diligent about not over spending on unnecessary items, stuck to a game plan, and worked toward her personal goals, not just the company goals.
I hope other people who come across your article can use it as a learning opportunity about how MLM business works, not just PP. While you focused your opinion on this specific company, the same goes for so many others out there too! Likewise, I think you found that PP people are passionate about the company/products. 🙂
I became a consultant on January 2nd. I typically HATE MLM, but I really liked these products and I needed a side gig, so I thought what the heck? I have put a lot of money into the company in these past three months because I intend to treat this like owning my own brick and mortar business. I am doing several vendor events and such. I am intrigued on your formula for affiliate marketing, since that’s what I originally considered ( I have my own personal website/blog).
If I do see a decent profit from Posh after this spring/summer season…I will report back.
Oh, and I forgot to say that their scrubs and clay masks will clog your plumbing, so if you plan to use them, stock up on baking soda and vinegar now!
I’ve been a Posh consultant since early 2015. I tried a few products from my starter kit that worked wonderfully for my skin (normal) and even for my husband’s skin (acne). But in the 4 or 5 catalog changes since I started, every single product that worked for us has been discontinued and the “replacements” have been sh*t. Their business strategy has been to replace 2/3 of the products every catalog so you, as a consultant, have to spend your own money to buy and try. AND, with every single new catalog launch, they impose new “programs” (perks) and regulations that HURT THE CONSULTANTS.
No more direct deposit, you have to use their debit cards which are only useful to buy more posh (imagine telling a brick and mortar merchant “I have $1.57 on this card, so do that, and then put the rest on my main debit card…”), AND you have to pay a fee every year to the “bank” (a subsidiary of Wells Fargo) to access your commission. They say you “only” have to sell $300 in products every six months, but anything that cystomers use Perks on not only doesn’t bring you a commission, but also doesn’t count towards that $300. And, with the latest catalog launch, they have made it so you have to qualify (sell $200 in that month) to be able to get first dibs on the specials/”splurge of the month” products. And these rabid consultants just snap it up, so if you haven’t “qualified” you can’t buy it at all sometimes.
Then, when you try to buy a sale product with perks (customers and consultants) are paying full price (that soap on special for $5 will still cost $9 worth of perks) and the sale products dont even count towards the buy 5 get 1 free deal (that has changed so much I cant even keep track of what does count anymore). Lets not even get into how SMALL their products are. With the exception of those chunk bars, almost everything they do has gotten smaller (but the price tag hasn’t). They also were “smaller” to begin with – they put 6 oz of body cream into the same size tube that other companies use for 8 or 9 ounces (that’s just one example). It’s a rip off.
I spent $39 plus travel expenses to attend their ridiculous “Day Away” event and came away with literally zero information that I couldn’t have received from my upline as it was having, but there sure were ample opportunities to spend even more of my money on products and swag. I have claimed a business loss of my taxes 2 years in a row. I’ve found better products on etsy. Hell, I’ve found better products at Target. Posh can’t even claim to be natural, and their “naturally based” twist on the English language is precarious at best. There are a TON of other companies that can claim the same thing in terms of the naturalness and cruelty-free nature of the product, and several of them are cheaper or comparable in price to Posh.
I’m done. I was thinking I’d wait to just be terminated in June, but really, I’m so over it that I found this article while I was looking up how to just cut my ties sooner. Lol
Thank you for your first-person look at this MLM. I’ve repped 2, and had some similar experiences. But working for yourself is best when you create the product. Selling other people’s creations while playing by all their insane rules is a recipe for angst.
I just had my 1st poshaversary and I hate that you have such a bad view of the company. Not even trying I made a decent ( almost $400) profit last year and I am NOT a sales person. If people want what I have they ask. Simple as that. I do have a good amount of retired product but I just use it for gifts and for my personal use. Look at what you did as a business person and try not to take it all out on the opportunity that didn’t work for you.
I’m curious to know how the product clogged your plumbing unless you were throwing large amounts of it down your drain !
$400 per year is not a very profitable business. That’s like $1 per day. My point was to review the business opportunity, so you kinda made my point.
Whoa! A ton of talk here about those chunks! 🙂 By the way, I’m NOT a Consultant…but I am a Posh lover! Yes the chunks are $9 but they are HUGE and they last a long time. Why not think outside the box and come up with some great ways to utilize each bar? You’ll get sooo many more uses out of them than just bathing and showering with them. They’re also great to shampoo with, wash hands, soak feet, clean makeup brushes, wash dishes, pots and pans, hand wash delicate items, wash the car, bathe the dog, baby and toddler skin, couple’s spa nights, and gifts! If you can come up with any more great uses I’d love to hear what they are. Those chunks are worth every dime and more. Ciao for now! DHH.
Not a consultant but you just spend your free time browsing the internet writing comments about soap you buy. Sounds legit.
These reviews are hilarious. These people are challenging Beachbody shills, where the minute anything not glowing is stated about their company, they jump to say how wonderful it is, all of course pretending not to be related to said company. They have to be aware these are always so embarrassingly transparent. You better really cherish your soap if you sell your integrity and pride for it. 🙂
I’ll report back when I get my chunk and pay particular attention to the natural or un-natural ingredients. If this crap isn’t natural and people are endorsing it’s use on babies and children then that is problematic on so many levels. End of story!
Diane, you sound ridiculous when you say about the chunk bars…” They’re also great to shampoo with, wash hands, soak feet, clean makeup brushes, wash dishes, pots and pans, hand wash delicate items, wash the car, bathe the dog, baby and toddler skin, couple’s spa nights, and gifts!” ….
They are NOT good for shampooing hair or pets and it sounds downright ridiculous to suggest using it for dishes and pots and pans and vehicles. What next? Does it cure dire illness, prevent flu, cure world hunger or anything else, lol.
Look, I have tried lots of PP stuff. A young relative is a consultant and I am often asked to buy stuff so she can get enough points or whatever she is trying to do. I have no interest in it but I buy it to be nice.
I can’t be the only person who doesn’t want my soap to last 2-3 months. I like to switch it out frequently so a $9 bar of soap is expensive, especially if you end up not liking it.
Interesting!
Being that bar soap can harbour bacteria and be a cause of reinfections. So having a bar of soap that lasts for a really long time may cause an issue.
I find people have more bacteria and mold in their showers and couldn’t give a crap. For christ’s
sake. Be resourful cut the damn chunk in half if you want to switch soaps or are concerned about it being a medium for bacteria which
btw is unlikely
Interesting article, thank you!
I bought PP on Facebook at a friends PP Launch Party. The first thing I did when I received the products was look at the ingredients. I’m a chemist and extremely confused on how they are marketing their soap as “natural”. Propylene glycol is a petroleum derived product – completely synthetic. The products aren’t as natural as they want you to believe.
LOL. And the facts come out! I’m going to highlight this comment when I get back to my desktop on Monday….
*Naturally-based. Perfectly Posh never claims to be completely natural. As for the propylene glycol, Perfectly Posh’s is vegetable based and it’s used to keep the glycerin based soap from getting too soft. Also, Jolie, all of Perfectly Posh’s ingredients are online, on the website, for easy finding. You didn’t have to spend money on the product to find out what the ingredients were.
Best wishes X
LOL. Right on time. Within 24 hours a PP rep comes to explain that “naturally based” doesn’t mean all natural. It’s just kinda-natural, with some unnatural stuff.
Well, if you think about it, petroleum is a liquid found in geological formations beneath the Earth’s surface, formed from the remains of ancient marine organisms. You’ve just got to twist your logic the tiniest bit to jump to the conclusion that the liquid, exploding dinosaurs you use to power your car, is a natural product. Right? 😉
You’ve given very helpful information but you are also pushing an agenda on your website for people to make money using your business model. I’m not saying your point doesn’t have merit I’m simply saying you can’t completely write off MLM simply because you’ve found a better way.
Very simple to explain: I write about business opportunities and ways to MAKE MONEY ONLINE. Key word: ONLINE. It’s my blog, my opinion. I use my blog as a mouthpiece for MY PERSONAL OPINION.
You can listen to it, or not. I’m not an investigative journalist. I write about things that interest me, and show people how I PERSONALLY THINK they are going to have success making money.
Was there enough emphasis yet on the fact that this is my blog and my opinion?
This company is nothing but greed. Anne Dolton doesn’t care about any of her employees and they mess up so much it’s ridiculous and never take accountability for anything. I was a premier and decided enough was enough. Run far away from this company.
You were a Premier and didn’t know how to spell Ann Dalton’s name? lol
Sharp as a tack there, Jenn. Ever think that could have been an intentional misspelling?
Who cares about spelling her name correctly are you brainwashed into thinking she is God or something?
$9 for a bar of soap that lasts three months…hell yes that’s a good deal! Have you even tried the products?! I’m a new seller and have shared samples and within 1 DAY I had people buying these products! Thanks for putting your opinion out there, but I call BS. All it takes to convince someone to buy these products is to have them talk to someone that actually uses these products and show them how great they are to have them love them!
k now lets see how long your friends sustain interest in buying your soaps. READ THE POST before you comment please.
I’ve used them. They are nothing special and over priced.