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Powur Review
Company Name: Powur
Costs: Not Stated
Rating: 25/100
What Is It?
A rather unusual MLM that has distributors promoting solar panel systems for houses.
Short Review
Solar panels are an odd product choice for a MLM and it doesn’t seem like a particularly good one. The company offers little information about the quality of solar panels that are installed and it’s unlikely that people would want to buy a solar panel system after just listening to a distributor. The compensation side of things is fairly typical, but the product choice alone means that most distributors probably wouldn’t get very far at all.
Product Breakdown
MLMs tend to follow patterns when it comes to products. Often you will see the same products across many different companies, like cosmetics or skin care. But, that’s not the case with Powur. Instead, this company appears to be trying to break out of the mold. In fact, if you visit the company’s site, you might not even realize it is a MLM. The site is filled with statements like this:
That is a pretty idealistic goal and the company aims to achieve this by putting solar panels on 2 million home. That’s pretty ambitious really. But, it does make the goals of the company clear.
So, the products of the company are solar panels. That’s about all the website for the company will tell you. To me, that lack of information is a pretty major issue. After all, solar energy products aren’t all created the same. You really want to know if you are buying something decent before you get involved.
In reality, Powur is little more than a distributor. The actual company that you would be dealing with is SolarCity. Ironically, SolarCity offers its own ambassador program. That program is simpler though, with customers getting a free month of service for each person they recruit.
SolarCity offers a few options for their system. This includes a no-cost option where people pay for their power (rather than for the solar system) and a purchase option, where people buy the system outright.
Even then, there isn’t all that much information about the solar system that the company provides and whether it is any good. The site does have a gallery of images, but they are more focused on how the solar panels look than what they actually do.
I find that practice a bit concerning. After all, if someone referred you to a company like Powur or SoloarCity, you might not know much about solar panels at all. While they may have some advantages, it is not a decision you would want to make without knowing what you are getting into.
So, essentially, Powur is selling solar panels. It’s an odd product choice for a MLM and could potentially be a challenging product to try and sell.
Opportunity Breakdown
With this company, the opportunity isn’t exactly spelled out on their website, but they are promoting one. Like most MLMs, distributors advance through different ranks in the company. Higher ranks are associated with higher bonuses, as you might expect.
Getting through those ranks involves building a personal downline.
A downline is a common MLM term. It refers to the people who are under you. Specifically, this is the people that you recruit, the people they recruit and so on down the line (hence, downline). The idea is to increase the size of your downline, and also increase the sales within the downline.
The requirements for each rank are tied into the sales of that downline. For example, one of the early ranks is L2 Partner. To get this rank, you have to get 7 ‘solar proposals’, which probably means getting 7 people to apply for solar panels. You also have to get a downline that generates 25 proposals each month.
As you might expect, the size of the requirements increases as you get up into the higher ranks. So, it gets progressively harder to get through the ranks as you go.
The Possiblity of Being Successful
With any MLM, you have to be able to sell the products and recruit people into the company. Both of those processes tend to be more challenging than they initially sound.
Attempting to sell solar panel systems is likely to be even more difficult than making sales in other MLMs. For one thing, not all homes can even have solar panels, and the company doesn’t even offer its system in all states. In fact, the system is only available in 16 states.
Additionally, your potential customers would be largely limited to homeowners. That excludes people renting and dramatically limits the number of customers you can potentially reach.
And don't you think solar panel sales people are kind of annoying? As soon as they knock at my door I'm just searching for a way to tell them, “no thanks”, and get back to what I was doing.
Finally, solar energy is kind of a specialist idea. Some people would be interested in it, sure, but many others wouldn’t be.
All of these factors strongly limit how many people you could sell to. In turn, that lowers your odds of being successful dramatically. Realistically, how many of your social contacts would seriously consider getting solar energy?
With Powur, it seems that the company’s product choice dramatically limits the potential for distributors to be successful. Sure, if you know the right people or are really good at networking, you might get somewhere, but most people won’t.
Other Comments
At first glance, Powur might seem like a good idea because it is so different than other MLMs. But, that difference isn’t necessarily a good thing.
After all, people expect to buy cosmetics and health care products from distributors. Solar power? Well, that’s something different entirely.
Another issue is the downline. Your income relies very strongly on your downline, which is an issue with any MLM. This means that your income (and your rank) can fluctuate based on how well other people do. To me, that’s one of the worst parts of a MLM. It means that you are never fully in control of your own income.
One final thing is that you end up completely dependent on the company, just like any other kind of job out there. You aren't a business owner. You are a worker bee. There's nothing wrong with that, but it's not truly “owning a business”.
Now, this MLM kind of sprung up out of nowhere and there really is no guarantee about how long it will be around. So, there is a good chance that it could go out of business or dramatically change its model. If either of those things happened, you could potentially lose your entire income almost overnight.
Personally, I wouldn’t trust the company, because the relationship between them and SolarCity really isn’t clear. They also aren’t particularly forthcoming about the company or about their opportunity. That’s definitely not a good thing for a money making opportunity.
MLM VS Affiliate Marketing
People often end up turning to MLMs because they sound great in a presentation. “Hey, you can make money the easy way, and grow your business together while everyone gets rich!” In many cases, the idea of selling products sounds easy, especially if you already have friends or family that might be interested.
The problem is that MLMs are never as easy as they sound. Distributors often find it difficult to actually get people to make purchases, let alone lots of people, on a regular basis.
A more effective and more powerful way to make money online is affiliate marketing.
That is actually what I do and what thousands of other people online do. With affiliate marketing, there is no downline. So, your income is connected to the work that you put in, not what anyone else does.
Final Review
Still Selling Junk To Your Friends?
What is this - the 1950's selling Tupperware? Gimme a break. It's 2019. If you want to build a business, you NEED to be online or your business will be dead in less than 10 years.
Plus, those MLM parties boring as hell, and you know it. Nobody wants to buy that overpriced junk. Sorry to be so straightforward, but I really want to see you succeed.
You can start an affiliate website, you can promote ANY products you want from ANY company, so why are you selling such a limited range of products? Affiliate commissions range from 5% to 75%, and include Amazon products, digital products, and recurring services.
Last year I generated multiple six figures with my affiliate sites, and I can show you how to make them using the same templates. You get to promte whatever you want of course, and YOU keep all the profits (no upline!).
Nathaniell
What's up ladies and dudes! Great to finally meet you, and I hope you enjoyed this post. I started AND quit MLM in 2010. By 2012, my affiliate websites were generating over $100,000 per year. Forget about that MLM company and start making money while you sleep. Test drive my method for free and join millions of other successful affiliate generating income from their websites!
Update review…:)! If you have the time to write negative reviews you should updaye your reivew when you are wrong. Since your update commissions habe have increased dramtically and bring cost of goods to to consumer like never seen in solar before. Average solar sale makes anywhere from 2k to 7k per home..and this is without recruiting team members. The CONSTUALNT can designe and finance the whple project with Powur. Only growth and amazing things since your review:) lets see of you are humble enough to admit when your wrong and actually write an accurate review!
This article isn’t exactly ‘true.’ I am not affiliated with Powur, but I am looking for more information before deciding to join or not. I joined 2 mlm’s last year and within 4 months began making $10k a month, with no previous lead gen skills… just good old hard work and starting a new social media profile. I am weary of mlm’s because one of the companies did halt and run off with my commissions. But it does seem unfair to dog all mlm’s or even say it’s ridiculous or will be difficult to sell solar… because I am in Venice, Ca and now that I am in the business of social media marketing and lead gen… this sounds like the simplest thing ever. Also, considering you posted this kind of dogging the company, but then posted your own links and informstion for your affiliate business that you would make a personal gain off of, I am not sure if this post helps me make any real decision, because I see your motivations have nothing to do with this company, but how you can turn the reader into a customer of yours. Thank you, but I do not feel that this is unbiased.
You should update this “report” a little bit because SolarCity and Powur are not partners. Instead, we chose to go another route with this business goal because solar city isn’t in every state or even around the world. At least not in the places we needed to be able to reach. So, now we have solar companies partnering up with Powur. Thus, changing the game entirely for the independent (solar) companies that are small time. Turns out these small time owners only use the finest Solar Panels while Solar City buys those cheap ones from China and totally misusing their reputation. Just an accurate observation that need’s to be shared to this outdated report. BTW, My team and I have been enjoying the diversity and the all around reach we now have that covers more states now than solar city does. Really happy that solar city is out of the way and we are utilizing normal everyday solar experts.
Do you know if there are actually any providers in Canada? Can”t seem to get an answer.
I’ve been working this program, and I must say that the article is a bit old, and could use to be freshened up, since Powur has gone through a lot of changes since the article was written — and for some reason, the author doesn’t see fit to put a date on the article.
Frankly, a story without a date is missing a crucial piece of data… HELLO??? IS SOMEONE HOME?
OK, so I have been working Powur for about 6 months, and I’ve been working it pretty consistently. I really love the culture, and I adore solar power.
Frankly, I don’t care who I promote solar power for, specifically, so this project is perfect for me.
I do wish that I’d make more moola… and you better not quit your “day job” to work for Powur — or any MLM, for that matter.
So, with that said, I will brag that I paid back my initial investment of $499 rather quickly, and started to earn money quick, until it dropped off, rather abruptly, and my downline stopped working.
There’s still hope, and I’m not giving up, however; it’s tough to do when you’re strapped for cash, and must pay for gas and food. So I will find work that pays bills while I remain an advocate for solar power and work to “save” the planet with Jonathan Budd — and through prayer, as there’s only hope for those who turn away from material goals, and instead to the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
I admit that I’m working with yet another solar power company, but it’s not an MLM. It’s a straight-up commission business, and we don’t get paid for appointments.
I do believe that it will provide more income, and so far, so good.
But let’s just clear something up… so far, nobody’s admitted what they actually made… ha ha… it seems that it’s a source of embarrassment. Maybe it’s even in our agreement to NOT admit the amounts.
Let’s just say then that I’ve already cleared 5 figures, and if all goes as planned, I’ll easily make 6 figures or more this year — (be sure to include the figures that come after the decimal).
Cheers!
My biggest concern is the fact that this “opportunity” was advertised in the Sales Jobs section on Craigslist. It does not meet the “sales job” criteria. It is a business opportunity and as such, it should be advertised in the business sales section because they are selling a “business”. There is much less traffic in the business sales section and that is why it was unscrupulously placed in the Sales Jobs section.
I worked for SolarCity and I quickly discovered that most of the homes do not qualify for a solar panel system. Either the roof is obstructed by trees or other obstructions, the roof structure is no conducive for panel placement, or the roof is not facing the direction for optimum sunlight collection. In other words, you need to talk to a lot of people in order to find the one ideal candidate for solar.
Charging $499 for this opportunity is a sign that the company is more interested in generating profits than it is in helping people as the videos suggest.
If Powur is really interested in helping people and saving the planet, the company should eliminate the start-up fee and provide a real opportunity for people to make money and help the planet. I’m having second thoughts now about buying a Tesla.
You can enroll with Powur for Free as an Advocate and promote Solar and get paid!
The information on this Website is way old and Tired ..its going on a one year since we ( Powur) have been partnered with Solar City…we have over 60 providers we are dealing with now,both Natiionally and Internationally… Talk to if you want the Straight Scoop…
FYI powur hasn’t been with solar City for a long time now!
Okay guys. First, Nathaniell, thanks for the post. As it turns out, I signed up for Powur early in the game. Really early, when they first announced their “Elon Musk affiliation” and “Solar City”. I met with Jonathan Budd (which was an internet marketer by trade), and was a genuine guy.
The bottom line is that this program is “psuedo affiliate marketing” for people that don’t understand it. Though a little steep at “$499 access”, it’s not a “scam per-say”.
It’s just not a true MLM, and it’s terms of service, how to make get paid for a lead, and so many other “do’s and dont’s” have erratically changed so much over the past year+.
In my eyes, it’s great for people that dont’ want to learn internet marketing, however not great for people like myself who want to drive real revenue and leads.
Bottom line is, if you’re reading this, then the program is probably not for you. But a “scam” it isn’t.
Well said JP powur is a scam. No company should require you to pay for a worthless one time license fee of $499 to be “hired” and then falsely claim you will make “$500 to $10,000 per month depending on appointments set and installations.” If you want to encourage to your friends to go solar then check for community bulk solar panel purchase options in your area, also you can go to most solar installers or the panel manufacturers websites and they will offer referral incentives that will pay you up to $500 per referral. No need for the middle man “Powur” which will end up costing your friend $2-3K more for the system. I support solar energy but not this illegitimate MLM company.
Tomski, you are the one who doesn’t know what you are talking about. Have you worked for solar installation companies? If not, you don’t know how it works and you are believing people who don’t know what they are talking about or are hyping this opportunity.
The biggest misrepresentation you have written above is using the example of getting paid $1,600 on a 20kW system. A 20kW system is huge and a very rare installation for residences. Very rate. The biggest system I sold while at SolarCity was 17.5kW on a huge home. My average sized deal while working at SolarCity was for one month’s period at 8kW and this lead the region at the time.
The average system size is probably more like 5kW to 6kW.
Do you even know how many panels would be required for a 20kW system? I bet you don’t know that it would require 80 solar panels with 250W panels or 66 solar panels with 300W output to produce 20kW.
Start counting the number of panels you see on homes in your neighborhood and let me know how many is average. I can guarantee you it won’t even come close to 66 to 80 panels.
Only the largest homes in the USA could accommodate these panels on their roofs and I’m sure there are some residences with a lot of panels or they would need to be mounted on the ground for someone who lives in the country.
You have swallowed the KoolAid, dude. Step away from the punch bowl and clear your head.
Like most every other MLM out there, only a very few people will ever make real money and if you are making good money, I commend you for being one of the few.
Just make sure you know what you are talking about instead of either lying to people or being ignorant about facts and reality. Ask any solar sales person what their average deal size is now and do some homework before spouting off about saving the planet, offsetting CO2 emissions and making so, so much money off this MLM program being installed on 2 million homes soon.
This article doesn’t accurately reflect the Powur Advisor opportunity. We are now in 30 states and opening up in Ontario and Puerto Rico this month. We are now an international company with 40+ premier providers in these markets. Solarcity is no longer on our platform. It is possible to earn a lucrative income while making this world a better place for our children and grandchildren. I know because I’m doing it! I personally have several contracts on the table for solar panel installations and I’m just getting started! I’ve had more yes than no to my requests for appointments because this is something that is going to actually save you money while you’re saving the planet from the use of dirty energy!! You should review Powur again , get the facts and revise this ludicrous article !
Hype sells….
This review doesn’t accurately reflect the actual model.
Power is a PLATFORM that connects buyers with solar providers via a solar “advisor”. The Powur advisors get paid for helping to make those buyer-to-provider connections and for inviting others to join as advisors (and supporting them). Solar City is not currently in the platform, but many other top-tier solar providers are.
While I can appreciate much of the information you present, as well as parts of the comments made, you’ll need to revamp and rewrite your article to reflect the new model that Powur presents.
The “old” model meant that the affiliates of Powur could only use SolarCity as the solar system provider and installer. This is now long gone and Powur has partnered with multiple new solar providers across the US. You’ll see this go live before the end of 2016 and some of the changes are already made in the affiliates back offices.
The next phase of expansion includes Powur going international. Hopefully that includes Canada where I’m located. FYI I am personally a member of Powur and have built a team of over 400 from a country where SolarCity isn’t even operating. Yes it takes work however, of all the different opportunities (6) I’ve attempted over the past four years this is by far the easier (especially with PowurPress) most lucrative and rewarding.
I live in an off grid cabin in the woods of Nova Scotia and have built a successful Powur business from there. I believe that with the right motivation, determination and information regarding Powur anyone can find success. It can be noted as well that the compensation model has drastically improved based on the inclusion of multiple new solar partners.
Thanks for the post re Powur and I look forward to reading your revised post in the future.
Cheers,
Steve Barnes
Steve, I would appreciate it if you reached out to me regarding Powur. My wife and I are interested in the possibility. We’re experienced network marketers but just haven’t found the right fit. I’ve had my eye on Powur for six months. We have lots of activist friends over Facebook. Find me there. I have a photography business. There aren’t many Charles McAnally out there.
This is a somewhat inaccurate and unfair review. Who knows if this will be published since the author of this article seems to own this website. I have never joined a MLM & I currently own my own business.
I felt compelled to write out my thoughts because I’m not sure if this article was written with the purpose of discrediting people researching Powur in to attempt to influence them to choose Affiliate Marketing instead.
I am not going to insult your intelligence, so please do not take me that way. As a matter of fact, based on the business you have created (including this website), I would probably wager that you are an intelligent person. If this is an honest review, NATHANIELL, I invite you to read on & respond to me and maybe you will find that you made some incorrect assumptions. From what I’ve learned so far in life; it is so beneficial for to be in a continually learning state so I live my life constantly curious and I am inquisitive by nature. Hopefully I can contribute you to considering a different perspective.
There are two main issues I see with this article.
1st & Primarily – Fossil Fuels, The Planet & Our Legacy
Our current way of generating energy is antiquated. My friends, family & acquaintances would not necessarily describe me as a “green” person. The first thought that probably comes to people’s minds would be that I am a business person or that I am a leader. With that said, there are two issues with the status quo of energy production. It is scientific fact that the burning of fossil fuels to generate electricity is raising the temperature of our planet. Secondly, Fossil fuels also only exist in a finite capacity so eventually they will cease to exist. If we continue on with the status quo & make no real progress in energy production we are choosing to not do our part in handling a very real problem that our descendants will face. At the very least, there will be a scramble for our descendants to create the infrastructure necessary to maintain their energy consumption. This will lead to costly & less effective systems and likely less competition. Generally, competition breeds a greater level of excellence in business. At the very worst, Earth will not be able to sustain life for our descendants. Due to the very serious nature of this issue 196 countries (Including most all major countries) entered into “The Paris Agreement.” This agreement is not solar specific and does not solve the problem entirely by any means. However, it can be considered the real start to this chapter of our existence in the history books. The truly unprecedented international agreement recognizes the problem, sets clear targets for actionable items for creating a sustainable future & ties our nations into a spirit of cooperation & transparency. There are now several cities who have made commitments to be have fully sustainable energy infrastructures in place by the 2020s. An article depicting the details of the agreement can be found here: http://www.wri.org/blog/2015/12/paris-agreement-turning-point-climate-solution
There are many options for sustainable energy. At this point, solar panels seem to be the most logical. Like any technology, the price is continually going down. The creative financing options offered by SolarCity provide for an opportunity for those who can not afford or do not want to pay for it upfront to still contribute to a sustainable future, while lowering their electricity bill. I do not know if your assertion regarding their finance structure calling for 20 years of payments and no ownership is correct or not. If it is correct, it likely needs to be tweaked. There needs to be a financing option available for the panels to be owned “free & clear” after the financing period. However, there should also be an upgrade option and extended service contract offered. I do believe that this option is available, but I do not know it for fact. Since a consumer could pay cash or take out a loan to pay for the panels and own them outright, this option is likely available. The “0 down, lower your monthly electricity bill” offer is excellent in that is makes solar energy very financially affordable for all homeowners, apartment building owners, commercial land owners, etc. Also, unlike wind, no land is necessary. The sun has so much power, it is easy to generate the necessary levels to power the world; even as the population grows.
2nd – Powur & MLM
As I mentioned, I have never joined a MLM organization. At the same time, I do not have anything against the honest, transparent & effective ones. Direct sales organizations allow for a gateway for those with the necessary commitment, discipline & perseverance to generate a substantial income. I previously was not interested in joining a MLM company. I am still doing research and have some additional questions that I need answered but Powur seems different. I have a track record of success as a leader and now as a business owner so I probably don’t fit the general profile of a MLM recruit. I was introduced to Powur by a gentleman who is the President of his own commercial energy company and had recently joined Power himself. After 20+ years of protecting America & serving overseas; he had a deep feeling to do something about our foreign dependence on oil and other fuels. Then Powur came along and he joined. He is now one of the most successful in Powur.
Although not necessarily “green” innately; I have always had an interest in solar energy. & photovoltaics in general. For Powur to attract a gentleman such as he and now also myself, I had to look into it further. That alone makes me think that Powur is not a typical MLM organization.
Then there is the pay structure. As you mentioned, MLMs typically are gateway providers, distributors if you will, of another product. I am not afraid of selling and I would say that I am exceedingly above average in what I may call “The Art of Selling.” However, Powur is about the introduction and recruiting. Their partners don’t sell solar directly. They input potential prospect’s address into a system and if their house qualifies; they submit for a connection with a SolarCity associate for a free consultation. You might say they are responsible for selling the appointment. Like you stated this is the “proposal” you mention in your review. This is so very unique and at the same time it is extremely important for the solar industry itself. One of the biggest challenges the industry faces is correcting the old reputation of the industry and getting people informed about the new solar industry, including the endless possibilities. In order for solar to be effective and scale on the level necessary for real sustainability; all people need to know how easy and affordable it is to get solar energy as well as all of the other options available for payment. I believe that SolarCity undoubtedly gets this approach and they take it a bit further. According to a study recently conducted by my company; Solar City’s sales approach is that they are not selling; but rather saving people on electricity. This has benefits and disadvantages. The biggest benefit is that it is in line with the spreading the right message of solar affordability. The biggest disadvantage is that their sales people should not shy away from being called sales people; or consultants. They are marketing to people who own property in their coverage area. Property owner’s likely are not fooled by sales people saying they are not sales people. It is an unnecessary declaration. Their sales people should embrace sales and instead focus their energy on bringing the best sales consultants across any industry. Sales is a very old and excellent profession when done well. If the consultants take this approach; selling their product using extraordinary sales processes, fundamentals and best practices and backed by an excellent partnership with support services…they will likely find that they have a much better closing ratio and earn more referral business. If they truly believe that they are not salespeople; they should not be salespeople. Their time may be better spent in a different area of the company as Solar City is not a nonprofit organization.
As for Powur; they are really not salespeople. At least not in a conventional way (everybody is a salesperson in one way or another). They are most certainly not the ones selling – or distributing – the product. They are making an introduction and recruiting other people to do the same.
Fact Check:
What is it & Short Review?…..
Yes Powur is unusual but the companies that change the world go against the status quo. They are definitely going against the status quo of the MLM industry. As for your quality concerns – SolarCity is backed by deep pockets and their panels utilize cutting edge technology. Also, the representative’s from Powur just make the connection. Once the connection is made; an expert will meet with the prospect and answer all questions while alleviating any concerns.
Opportunity Breakdown:
Yes a downline is necessary and required to advance in Powur. This is a “frowned on” part of MLM by non-MLM people. However, in the case of Powur – this is critical. It will change the world to have hundreds of thousands of people getting their friends, family & acquaintences interested in just sitting down with a representative from a solar energy provider. Not to mention, what better way to spread the word than to pay incentives for those who do their part. As for the company providing the panels, Solar City is the largest and attracts a great deal of talent so they are doing something right.
The possibility of being successful:
Yes every person won’t qualify. But the market is truly vast and expanding every day. People who own buildings on land. Sure apartment renters aren’t the market – but how about an apartment building owner? Maybe not now but that is the future…maybe Power will add that level. How about commercial? How about highrise office buildings? Malls? Dealerships? The landlords of renters? The opportunity is fresh and right now it’s endless – and worldwide.
To your last point; one of the greatest weaknesses of Powur is probably the communication and clarity of the relationship between them and Powur.
Finally, I do not know much about affiliate marketing but some of your comparisons on the MLM side are simply not correct; in the case of Powur; based on my experience so far.
1: Easy to get help: You have direct contact information for your recruiter not to mention access to a website with a wealth of information, tutorials, vudeos, webinars, etc.
2:Live Chat: There are webinars and conference calls. I will concur this is flawed at Powur. They may all be pre-recorded for all I know. If I do join, I will host regular calls and webinars in a more conventional way that clearlly demostrates that they are live and I will answer questions on the fly and all that.
3: There is step by step training. This probably depends on who’s downline you are in. Some people (like myself) wouldn’t need it. I will basically create a training plan to ensure the success of anyone who joins under me. I am skilled at building teams so this may not be applicable across the board but it is likely more common than not.
4: Free website? Yes a free website is indeed included.
5: You can get your feet wet for free – you can refer clients, etc. In order to really dig in you will need to pay but it’s a one-time fee only.
6: The payplan and incentives do not seem complicated in the least and there are even many bonuses available.
7: No one in Powur has ever said this is earning money the “easy way.” I actually jumped on a webinar with Jonathan Budd and he specifically says that it is not easy and not “get rich quick” etc. Anything worthwhile takes hard work and dedication.
8:Investment Costs: There are no high investment costs. It’s a one time payment of about $500. “Thousands of dollars” is simply not true, when it comes to Powur.
Thank you for reading this and I hope to see some response from you. At the least, I hope that this response is posted, unedited – to help people make a more informed decision if they come across your review.
Many years from now – I would welcome a communication from you when you end up adding solar to your home. I say many years because based on your review; you may be one of the last holdouts to traditional electricity! Solar is indeed – THE FUTURE. 🙂
Did you end up joining Powur, Christopher W?
If that’s the case, could you share your experience?
Thanks.
The idea sounds good on the surface, but the economics don’t work. Solar City is a company losing tremendous amounts of money (look at their financials) and now that the govt is not subsidizing solar as much, Solar City is hurting even more. You are taking a huge gamble by promoting Powur to people you know because of this. There are much better opportunities with much less risk available.
I’d agree!
I use to work for SolarCity and in my opinion making money with this MLM is just as hard if not harder than any other MLM. The only people making money here is Jonathan Budd, his executives and SolarCity because of the following:
On average, SolarCity sales reps will close 10% of the people they meet with depending upon which area of the country.
They have high qualifications for homeowners with restrictions on the type of roof and credit scores.
Leasing is the worst choice for the homeowner because after the 20 year lease expires, you have to renew the lease with only a 10% discount over the going rate from your utility company, you can renew the lease again the going rate with a 10% discount or have an option to purchase the 20 year old panels that you paid for over and over again during the 20 year lease. BTW, SolarCity filed to get the 30% tax credit on their inflated value of the solar system which is some cases was 33% higher than the competition if you were to buy the system.
It’s harder to sell your home if you decide to move no matter what SolarCity tells you. Just ask a Realtor. I never found one Realtor who liked solar on a home they were trying to sell. The options are not favorable.
Powur’s monthly residuals are pathetic. 10 to 50 cents a month per home?
Powur has to recruit more and more people in order to keep this thing afloat because very few people will ever make enough money from the installations to remain in the company. The regulators will soon see that this constant recruitment is frowned upon and will probably shut them down and who will have made any money?
Recently they bragged about selling $2,000,000 in solar systems and paying out $50,000 in commissions. Do the math. How much is that per person involved with the company? That’s only 250 systems if this amount only includes the $200 per system payout. Installations could take up to six months or more to get installed.
Jonathan Budd and his company made most of the money through the initial training investment from $299 to $499 to join.
Once the hype wears off, most people will be very disappointed about not helping to change the world as promised.
In my opinion, the only people making money in the solar installation business are the owners and executives. Everybody else who is doing all the work gets paid minimum amounts and are required to work long, hot hours, seven days a week in most cases for salespeople.
This is also a highly competitive marketplace and homeowners have become very savvy about purchasing the solar systems instead of leasing and SolarCity as of this writing had a 30 year loan program that bombed. Who will pay for 30 years to own the cheapest solar panels that have a 25 year warranty?
Don’t fall for all the hype because it is tugging at your environmentalist heart. You will not make very much money with this MLM.
If you want to make some money in the solar installation business, I would recommend that you become an affiliate for several solar installation companies who will pay from $250 to $1,000 for a lead that they close and they install.
JP,
With all due respect, YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT !
Powur has never bragged or hyped, its goal is 2,000,000 homes going solar by 2025, thus paying out $2,000,000,000 to Powur Advisors, The Direct Sales industry is a global industry, allowing anyone with the work ethic to take advantage of an opportunity without a huge capital investment, don’t let your failures or ignorance skew your comments. I’m sure the founders of Facebook, Uber and AirBandB were all told that their crowd sourcing platform wouldn’t work by those who didn’t share the vision. Now these companies are values in the billions of dollars and have a global user base.
As with any business income is a result of time and consistent effort, no guarantees. No one at Powur will tell you your going to get rich quick. You will however be able to make an impact and income as a Powur Advisor. With a 95% drop in the cost of solar panels since 2008, many homeowners are looking to take control of their power. Electricity from clean renewable solar is now less expensive than when purchased from the dirty utility monopolies. Right now 67,000,000 U.S. homes are eligible for $0 Down solar.
Solar City (JP your former employer) the largest provider of residential solar in the country, was Powur’s first channel partner. Using Powur’s software a Powur Advisor can crowd source solar providers to homeowners interested in going solar from the palm of their hand. The Powur Revenue Sharing Plan is second to none, the Powur Advisor is paid up to a $30 appointment bonus when a homeowner has a FREE, No Obligation consultation, if the homeowner decides to go solar, the Powur Advisor gets paid as much as $0.08 per watt installed. Now doing the simple math, a 20 kW system can earn a Powur Advisor up to $1600 in commissions and that’s just the beginning. Powur will train and certify a new Advisor, so no experience is necessary. The corporate and field leadership teams provide ongoing support, mentoring and training period !
Now full disclosue, I am a National Powur Partner/Advisor, I have built a team but I do NOT get paid for signing anyone up. I do receive over-ride bonuses (just like a real estate or insurance broker receives from their agents production) in addition to my own production. As of this post, my team has made an impact on our planet by sequestering over 700,000 lbs of CO2 in our atmosphere from the homes we have shared solar with. I began my Powur business in Sept. 2015 and my commission checks keep coming !!! I started working part-time 8-10 hrs a week, I’m making an impact and income with Powur, PBC. SO CAN YOU
Whatever dude, you really dont know what you are talking about Powur is a great company