Product Name: Ingreso Cybernetico
Product Owner: Dwayne M Golden
Minimum Cost: $50
Full Price: $6250 + $25/month
What Is It?
This is a standard MLM company with a Latin twist. They hide behind a front of selling “digital products”, but the real profit is in recruiting members. In my book, this makes it a pyramid scheme.
There's really nothing new here except to pick apart details about what the company offers and how you get paid. It's no secret that I dislike MLM, so if you are an MLM fanboy, you will not like this review. If you are simply looking to make money from home, PLEASE look past Ingreso Cybernetico and dig into what kind of damage MLM can do to people's lives.
Before You Buy
At a first glance, Ingreso Cybernetico seems like a legit direct selling company. On their sales page they talk about all the things their company offers, including:
- Ingreso Cloud
- Ingreso Apps
- IC Magic Responder
- IC Host World
- IC Lead Pages
- IC Language Institute
- IC Affiliate Partnership Program
- IC Cybernetico Live
- IC Chat & Serve
Basically, they offer a lot of web based services. Sounds legit, right? It's not. In fact, the first link I clicked took me here
Well, it already looks like their hosting is having issues. Hosting is a joke anyway, because you can get $5/month basic hosting at Hostgator.
Then, as we dig just a bit deeper, we see more indications that their products are just placeholders, and only secondary to the opportunity. I looked at their autoresponder plans as well. Um….that doesn't make sense
In case you didn't notice, all plans, $15-$69 per month allow up to 5,000 subs, up to 10,000 subs, and cannot surpass 25,000 subs. If they can't even figure out what the packages are offering, how are you supposed to.
BTW, I use Aweber, which is $19 for 500 subs, $29 up to 2,500 subs, $49 up to 5,000 subs, and so on. This is for one of the top Autoresponders in the industry, not some rinky-dink South American MLM company. It costs a bit more, but with higher delivery rates, you'll make it up in revenue earned.
As with many MLM companies, it's extremely hard to find legit information on the company because there are so many folks grabbing keywords and doing a bait and switch on you.
They will title their videos “Ingreso Cybernetico is a Scam!”, then turn around and say it isn't. Or “It's a pyramid scheme”, then spend 5 minutes telling you it isn't and another 15 minutes about this amazing opportunity to earn money from home. No one digs into the products because either they probably don't understand what they are.
I'll go more into the compensation plan below, but the utterly confusing process of how you get paid is just another example of why you should stay away from this company.
Oh, and don't be fooled by their use of words like “revolutionary” or “industry leader”…these are all very common products offered by a number of companies for better prices and longer track records.
Let's just take a quick look at their pricing. Notice on their “pricing” page, nothing is explained about what you are actually paying for?
- Entrepreneur: $50
- Business Specialist: $100
- Business Manager: $300
- Business Director: $500
- Business Vice President: $1500
- ? ? ?: $3500 (list on their website, not explained anywhere)
- Presidents Club: $300 one time payment
- Presidents Circle? Get paid 10 levels instead of 5 (Is this the same as Presidents club?)
- Management Fee: $25/month
There's a lot going on here. The main thing to understand that might change your mind about whether Ingreso is worth your money is this: In order to get paid for a level you need to OWN that level.
If you buy the Business Director level ($500) you cannot get paid for someone joining the business specialist level. If you join the Entrepreneur level, you cannot get credit for any Directors that join under you. Each person you recruit MUST join the same level as you.
The only way to prevent this is to buy everything for a total of $2500 ($6500 if you count the mystery program). Don't forget you'll also be paying $25 per month!
What I Liked
OK, to be honest, I think if an MLM company was to succeed, what Ingreso Cybernetico offers might be the way to go. An all in one hosting, cloud storage, domain service, and autoresponder would be pretty cool. Pure Leverage, another MLM company does something similar (and fails at it).
The issue is that they do not focus on the products, and quality suffers. The top companies in any industry dedicate entire teams to running just ONE of these services. How are these guys doing all of them? Poorly.
In the main video on the main Ingreso site it's explained that we get a free domain, website templates, and hosting/autoresponder included in our membership. That would be awesome, but then that's the last we hear of it.
Later on in the videos we are told that we receive 100% commissions from products sold. So are these included in the various levels of IC membership or do we have to pay for them separately?
Another thing that was not so bad about this MLM company is that it seems to be small and personal. In the few promo videos I watched, the recruiters seemed to really want to help their “team”. They talked about work and commitment, and there weren't a lot of flashy cars or $100 bills being thrown around like some other MLMs. I'll give them credit for that. Some MLMs like Wake Up Now (now defunct), play up the “get rich” thing and pander to urban youth with that kind of crap.
However, although the intentions of these recruiters may be good, I think they haven't really thought through the whole process. How are the members that they get into Ingreso Cybernetico going to make money…by recruiting of course. And how are those guys going to make money…by recruiting of course.
Starting to sound like a pyramid scheme?
Update! Many people at this point will say that “corporate America is also structured like a pyramid”. This is untrue. Yes, there is one CEO, and a few managers, and more employees…but the jobs that they do are all different. What the CEO of a company does is different from what the employees do. They have different pay, different responsibilities, different everything. Not everyone is selling and not everyone is recruiting new employees to the company!
Imagine if you went to McDonalds and in addition to your Big Mac and fries, they tried to get you to work there! It would be annoying, and pretty soon everyone in the world would work at McDonalds.
With direct selling and network marketing companies, everyone does the same thing. You sell and recruit. Your downline sells and recruits. Your upline sells and recruits. Eventually there will not be enough people in the world to get any new distributors into the company. This is the exact reason the FTC is now investigating Vemma!
What I Didn't Like
Pay to Get Paid
First off, let's just reiterate that you have to pay $25 per month just to get paid. Even if you get the basic Entrepreneur plan for $50, you are going to have to pay 50% of that each month to continue your membership. You might earn $125 for each “matrix” you fill, but don't' forget that you are starting out twenty five bucks in the hole each month.
If you need money, get a job. They are free. If you don't need money and are looking to start an online business, avoid MLM and sell real products that people want.
Focus on Recruiting
All the videos put out there by IC focus on how to get people to join and how much money you can make. Nothing is explained about their services or how they compare to others in the industry. This is a network marketing “biz op”, plain and simple. Your money will come from getting other people into the system.
Pay just fifty bucks and own your own business! Now that you own a “business”, what's next? Apparently they hook you up with a 30 days success plan and that's about it. Without a business plan, or even better, an online business plan, most people will be stuck using the same old network marketing bag of tricks.
That will will likely include cold calling on the phone or producing YouTube videos telling people how awesome this income opportunity is. Oh, don't' forget annoying your friends by posting on Facebook/Instagram/Twitter. That's not a business – it's like an internet telemarketing job!
Without proper training how to build, & rank your website or do any forms of advertising other than post on social media, your new “business” will be dead in the water. Most people can make a few sales conning friends and family, but it usually stops there.
Complicated Payment Systems
Just try to watch the video below and tell me that it's not overly complicated. There is absolutely no reason to structure payments like this. Oops! It's gone now!
Wow, thousands of dollars in recurring income, I don't care what it all means!
If you watch the whole video, even the owner gets confused about how much is getting paid to whom and under what circumstances. If the CEO can't figure it out, I think that's a problem!
How It Works
In case you didn't watch the whole video above, the way it works is like this: You recruit two people. They then recruit two people each. Once this “mini pyramid” is filled, you earn some money, and start over. Each time you fill the pyramid, you get paid.
There are other rules and what-not where you can fill other people's pyramids, and I'm not 100% clear on how people build their own pyramids and how it affects yours. I know someone will chime in here and cry, “YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND!” I will admit that I don't really care to understand the intricacies of how the compensation plan works. However the basics of recruiting to fill your “matrix” and cycling out.
High Startup Costs
Remember above when I said that you had to own each level in order to get paid for it? That means you'll be paying several thousand dollars just to get started selling.
Do you know how much it costs to buy a domain name? $10. How much is hosting per month? $5-$10 (prepay about $60 for the year). Basically, you can start your own business website for less than $100, so why would you pay thousands to these guys?
I know that some MLM junkies are still saying that every business is a pyramid scheme and I don't fully understand the power of leverage in network marketing. Remember! An apple employee does not have to pay in order to sell iPhones. A Starbucks franchise owner does not make money by selling other Starbucks franchises.
Not all network marketing companies are bad. However, because of the low quality products and focus on recruiting, it's my belief that Ingreso Cybernetico is a product based pyramid scheme.
What Is Your Business Dream?
Do you really want to sell email software and business tool? That sounds pretty boring to me. There's no reason to start a business in an industry you have no interest in just because you think it can make money.
You need to find something you are passionate about. “Helping people” doesn't count! What kind of stuff do you want to sell? What kind of products are interesting to research and review?
You can build an online business about anything you want and promote products from other companies for a profit. This is what I do for a living. My main business is about some cool computer software that I use, and I also have a small website about brewing beer at home. Companies actually pay me to advertise stuff on my website, and I get to talk about stuff that interests me, rather than promoting junk and recruiting people into a biz op.
Got any questions about my business or what I do for work online? Let me know in the comments!
Have any comments about Ingreso Cybernetico? Leave a message below and I'll get back to you 🙂
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